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Well, isn’t this inspiring?! Recently I got to chat with one my Eat to Live Family members, Kierstan who has been successful losing 120 pounds on the Nutritarian diet! Hear what she has to say about how she does it, what her strategies are, and what she does when she gets off track. And she also gave us some of her favorite recipes so we can use them ourselves! Sign up for those here http://www.thewateringmouth.com/cheatsheets

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YouTube auto-generated transcript:

 

hello there oh i have a fun one for you

 

today i am interviewing kirsten who is

 

one of my old school audience members

 

she has done challenges she’s an

 

original academy member she’s a member

 

of the italia family and she has lost

 

like 120 pounds i need to live and i

 

wanted to share her story because i

 

think it’s always fun to hear how other people

 

do their journey and we can definitely

 

always learn some things from them i

 

mentioned some recipes we she is giving

 

us her favorite recipes at the end of

 

this and these are located in the cheat

 

sheets on the cheat sheets page so you

 

just sign up for the cheat sheets at the wateringmonth.com

 

cheat sheets and then you’ll have access

 

to a page which you will be able to

 

download kirsten’s favorite recipes from

 

there okay i also wanted to mention

 

kirsten and i recorded this video

 

actually in june of 2021 but you’re i’m

 

releasing this podcast in october of

 

real time right now what’s about to

 

happen is we’re gonna have another free

 

five day challenge starting november

 

first so you don’t want to make sure

 

that you sign up for that

 

thewaterymouth.comchallenge

 

you will get on the waitlist and then

 

come october 25th we are going to be

 

sending out those free five-day eat to

 

live challenges to everybody you know

 

recipes meal plans grocery lists

 

everything you need to know for five

 

days of awesome eat to live eating and

 

i’m also going to be doing a another

 

four day live workshop to support the

 

challenge and to support your efforts in

 

this challenge so make sure you sign up

 

for that it’s going to be awesome and

 

right after that we’re going to be

 

opening up the eat to live family again

 

for registration so keep your eye out

 

that’s all of the little news and

 

announcements for now i want you to meet

 

kirsten and listen to our interview and

 

i will see you soon bye

 

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hi i’m sheri alberts and this is the

 

watering mouth podcast and i’m going to

 

teach you to eat to live lose the weight

 

and love the process

 

for good episode 10.

 

hey guys sherry from the watering mouth

 

here i have a very special guest today

 

i’m doing a special podcast and youtube

 

video for you this week and i’m interviewing

 

a nutritarian from my audience and her

 

name is kirsten and i just want to say

 

first of all thank you for being here

 

kirsten thank you for having me i’m

 

excited to be here and sharing with

 

everybody out there yeah wonderful so

 

i’ve done interviews like this before i

 

really like to do them because i feel like

 

there’s some mystery to the folks who

 

look successful and i think it’s there

 

actually is no mystery and that’s why i

 

kind of want to just talk about what we

 

do and how we how we become successful

 

and how we

 

continue on this path and just keep

 

going so that’s kind of the reason i do

 

these interviews is to help folks see

 

that there isn’t as much mystery as you might think

 

that we can all do this and

 

that um probably there’s a ton of tips

 

that maybe we hadn’t thought of before

 

so we’re going to hear from kirsten

 

today about her journey on the nutritarian lifestyle so

 

kirsten thank you so much we

 

started talking recently just you and me

 

because you are a member of the eat to

 

live family and you had um posted about

 

your amazing success so that’s how we

 

kind of know each other but i want you

 

to give me just a little bit more

 

details about how did you find eat to

 

live and then how did you find me

 

sure so um i came from the typical sad

 

diet the all of the bad food the

 

standard american diet and i’ve been

 

overweight my whole life and i just

 

was at my doctor’s office one day and

 

she always talks about the eating a

 

plant-based diet and there was a flyer

 

on the back of the door and it was for

 

emily buller who’s from northeast

 

indiana which is where i’m located and

 

she was coming to talk about her book

 

and i i read about it and i looked up

 

her book online and i thought i should

 

go see her but i wasn’t quite ready for

 

that big of a level of commitment at the

 

time so i ended up getting her book

 

which is called starved to obesity and

 

in her book she shares her story about

 

how she started doing dr fuhrman’s eat to live and i

 

loved what she had to say and so i

 

decided to give it a try and right away

 

when i started trying i started looking

 

for different types of recipes out there

 

and i just googled

 

nutritarian and eat to live and i came

 

across the watering mouth and i found

 

you and your videos and your infectious

 

energy and all of the awesome stuff that

 

you gave and i was i was hooked at that

 

point i’m kind of fangirling right now a little bit right now

 

actually i’m fangirling right back at

 

you i love to have folks who’ve been

 

successful with my stuff it always makes

 

you feel so good

 

so when did you find eat to live

 

originally so emily’s book was like

 

three years ago or something like that yeah so i

 

discovered it probably in june or july of 2020

 

and i read it and i decided that the

 

first monday of august like like any

 

good addict of course i had to binge

 

over the weekend but that first monday

 

of august i think it was august 3rd or

 

that i was going to go go full-fledged

 

in and at that point i weighed 258

 

pounds i was on blood pressure

 

medication even on medicine my blood

 

pressure was over 140 over 95 at most visits um

 

i was eating really unhealthy like i

 

said in the post that i put on the

 

italia family i would get a pack of

 

cookie dough on my way to work and that

 

would be my breakfast and i was just

 

that’s just how i ate that was you know

 

a carton of ice cream at night and i’m

 

not talking about a small one um and

 

that was sort of just how i live

 

and um so i started in august and i went

 

all in and um ever since that i’ve really been

 

sticking to it this is amazing so you

 

have been doing this now just for the

 

viewers to know when i’m recording this it’s been

 

just under a year is that right yes and

 

in terms of results i mean i lost 30

 

yeah first month because i was i was

 

eating virtually no fruits or vegetables

 

at all so i lost a lot of weight really quickly

 

but by the time i went in a month later

 

for a follow-up with my doctor my

 

cholesterol had already dropped 70

 

percent and whoa yeah

 

yeah and she took me off my blood

 

pressure medication at that point um

 

wonderful my scalp psoriasis resolved

 

within the first couple of months my

 

allergies got a lot better my seasonal

 

allergies got a lot better

 

my depression seemed to improve within

 

you know a month or two and then i just

 

kept losing weight and as of right now

 

i haven’t quite hit my 120 pounds but

 

i’m at about 118 pounds that i’ve lost

 

since since august oh my gosh

 

yeah i thought you were gonna be like i

 

haven’t hit my hundred yet but then

 

you’re like my hundred and twenty like

 

wow congratulations kirsten and i can see

 

the light in your face i can see the vibrancy

 

and i wonder about that vibrancy right

 

right before you found the lifestyle and

 

what that was like

 

how did that feel for you when you were

 

in that place right before you found it

 

oh it was terrible i mean i’ve battled

 

depression my whole life um and i’m also

 

in recovery um from alcohol i’m gonna be

 

sober i’ll be sober nine years in just a

 

couple congratulations again right

 

so before that i really felt like i was

 

just kind of going through the motions

 

and in fact i i think if you would have

 

asked me i would have said i don’t think

 

i’m going to live past 60 because i

 

wasn’t really willing to change the way

 

that i was eating and so there wasn’t a

 

lot of hope i didn’t have a lot of

 

energy there was a ton of shame about

 

the way that i ate um

 

you know overeating what i bought at the

 

grocery store people

 

my perception judging me um and again

 

just no energy whatsoever you know i

 

would have maybe one vegetable serving a

 

day i mean i just wasn’t eating very

 

healthy at all and so for me it was the shame

 

and the hopelessness i think were some

 

of the biggest feelings that i experienced

 

yeah for sure and i think a lot of us

 

can relate with that it doesn’t matter

 

how much weight we have to lose we still

 

have that that shame and everything too

 

but certainly when you’re at that place where

 

you know cookie dough and ice cream and

 

things like that and i remember actually

 

the thing you said from your post in the

 

family and you did mention that as well

 

having the cookie dough for breakfast

 

the ice cream at night when we’re in

 

kind of a pattern like that it just

 

seems to keep getting a little bit worse

 

and a little bit worse and a little bit

 

worse right and you just kind of think oh

 

that’s fine i’ll just have this now too

 

it doesn’t matter right i recall some of

 

my worst moments were these these days

 

where it just was it just never ended

 

right it was just

 

okay now what and now what am i going to

 

eat and now what am i going to eat and

 

and nothing ever seemed to

 

stop that nothing ever seemed to stop those

 

those thoughts so let’s so you have had

 

some amazing results let’s talk a little

 

bit about you first um without the food

 

stuff and then we’ll talk so we can give

 

a little depth to your personality and

 

then we’ll talk a little bit more about

 

how you got to where you are right now

 

because i know that’s what everyone

 

really wants to hear but i wanna i wanna

 

get to know you a bit so tell me about

 

who you are in real life and what do you

 

do for a living and and

 

and those kinds of things so it’s a

 

little complicated i’m a licensed

 

pharmacist but i’m actually not

 

practicing as a pharmacist so i teach at

 

a college of pharmacy and so i’m

 

teaching full-time um i am still an

 

active licensed pharmacist but the type

 

of pharmacy that i practice is a little

 

bit different than what you think of

 

when you think of like going to the

 

drugstore to pick up a prescription so

 

what i do is what we call ambulatory

 

care pharmacy and so i did an additional

 

year of training after i graduated

 

and i worked in a doctor’s office and

 

what the doctors would do is they would

 

come to me and they would say i have

 

this patient whose blood pressure i

 

can’t control i don’t know what to do

 

with them will you meet with them find

 

out what’s going on and make a

 

recommendation based on what the

 

situation is so i actually really loved

 

it because i got to spend a lot of time

 

with patients getting to know their

 

stories which to me is so important and

 

um for a while i actually lost 50 pounds

 

back in the day and i was actually doing

 

some um behavioral modification therapy

 

with patients as well so i’d be

 

interesting

 

yeah i became a certified uh

 

tobacco cessation specialist and so i

 

helped people quit smoking

 

and i helped people come up with some

 

lifestyle modifications for their own

 

health which is so ironic because yeah i

 

was actually wanna i want to interrupt

 

you there because can you tell me about

 

that irony what that was like for you

 

teaching patience did you ever think to

 

yourself oh i wish i used this as well

 

or i wish i could or how how did you

 

feel there oh absolutely i mean i think

 

when i when i started doing it i had

 

lost 50 pounds and i was had some

 

success under my belt and so i was i

 

felt a little more confident in my

 

skills and i learned the skills in

 

pharmacy school and i went to some

 

additional training

 

and so i felt like i could help patients

 

that way but i did always feel a little

 

hypocritical you know

 

the fat woman giving you advice on how

 

to change your life

 

and so that was really hard for me

 

because how are people going to take me

 

seriously and so there was a lot of self

 

judgment there um

 

and you know the imposter syndrome kind

 

of going on as well

 

yeah for sure for sure so tell me a

 

little bit more about your personal life

 

so we’ve we know sort of what you do for

 

work um and do you have any pets do you

 

have a family what’s what’s your regular

 

life like outside of food yes outside of

 

food i have three dogs i am a pit bull

 

junkie i have three people

 

they’re all girls and i’m they haven’t

 

barked yet which is a christmas miracle

 

what’s going on right now because they

 

usually we don’t mind if they do it’s

 

totally we welcome

 

we welcome pets over here it

 

yeah when i was teaching from home

 

during copied i my dogs like to look out

 

the window and so there’s always lots of

 

puppy butt going on while i was teaching so yeah

 

this will happen um

 

i got divorced about two years ago-ish

 

something along those lines that also

 

contributed i think to my journey um i had

 

some familial relationships that were a

 

little tough at the time too so i was

 

feeling a little isolated and i was

 

really using food a lot to cope um yep i

 

know i’m not supposed to be talking

 

about food but um no no it’s fine it’s

 

gonna it’s gonna seep in please let it yeah

 

i other than that i live by myself and

 

um i’m just now starting to get a little

 

more active in terms of hobbies but i

 

didn’t have a lot of hobbies because i

 

stayed home and ate and um

 

so that’s kind of a new area of my

 

personality that i’m exploring as well

 

can we um can we take a moment for that

 

just take a moment because i talk about this

 

all the time and this is such a huge

 

part of the eat to live academy which is

 

a part which is included in the eat to

 

live family itila family being the

 

monthly group coaching membership that

 

kirsten is a part of and um and that you

 

know has the eat to live academy but i

 

talk so much about this

 

and i heard dr fuhrman talk about this

 

in the in the beginning as well of my journey

 

who would you be without the food stuff

 

right who would you be

 

if food wasn’t

 

as i was talking about before if it

 

wasn’t that constant what am i gonna eat

 

for lunch and you’re having lunch and

 

now what am i gonna have for dinner

 

right if there was no thought about food

 

anymore what could come out

 

that you don’t even know is in there

 

have you started to think a little bit

 

about what you might be interested in doing now

 

yeah you know i think it’s it’s really starting to

 

to emerge a little bit i had a lot of

 

healing to do even when this plan first

 

started just because i was

 

still really hurt from my divorce and so

 

i was still dealing with that a lot and

 

um school teaching during covid was

 

really really hard teaching college

 

students the courses i teach were

 

hands-on so there was a lot of stress

 

going on so i would say for me that

 

early part of my journey was just still

 

kind of trying to stay functional um now

 

that we’re getting back

 

in more postcovid normality i think i’m

 

starting to see that a little bit more

 

it’s like um i also started dating

 

online after some of this weight loss

 

and so i’m going through all of that and

 

so it’s like wait i could go kayaking

 

now wait i can’t like

 

we can go for a walk after dinner i’m

 

i’m not gonna get out of breath and so

 

just even like those things just thinking about

 

what are my interests and so i hadn’t

 

fully delved into that yet i started

 

doing yoga a little bit um i started

 

meditating a little bit and i started

 

enjoying some of those things but i i

 

was just talking to my therapist today

 

about how i’m kind of in this

 

she we decided i’m kind of a slingshot

 

person when i decided that i was ready

 

to do eat to live it was a hundred

 

percent and boom i’m gone i like hated

 

the way that i was eating i hated the

 

way that i felt about myself and then

 

all of a sudden i was like okay

 

i’m done and i didn’t really look back

 

it was the same way with alcohol and i

 

feel like i’m kind of starting to get

 

there right now with other aspects of my

 

life because i feel like a lot of

 

internal tension and i think i’m getting

 

to the point where it’s like okay i’m

 

ready to slingshot forward to that next

 

part of my life where i actually live

 

because i don’t have to think about food

 

i don’t obsess about food i don’t eat at

 

my feelings and so i’m really excited

 

about this next step

 

i love that slingshot idea that’s so

 

cool because i feel like a lot of us

 

have a story in our minds that

 

there is no slingshot it’s all just

 

trudging right and like oh i have to do

 

i have to make the salad now and i have

 

to now i have to eat the salad and all

 

that kind of stuff and you have a a

 

thought about yourself that like once i

 

do something i do it how do you think

 

you got that identity how do you think

 

you created that oh that’s a really good question um

 

you know i think it’s i’m a thinker i’m

 

a big time thinker i overthink

 

everything and i feel a lot of anxiety

 

and i mean like literally i just talked

 

about this today in therapy so i have

 

some fresh insight into this but i think

 

and i think and i think and i think and

 

i think and i think and i stress um

 

and and then all of a sudden

 

it’s like that tension building in the

 

slingshot and then all of a sudden it’s

 

like i get tired of feeling sick and

 

tired and then i just want to make change

 

so i don’t really necessarily know where

 

it came from except that

 

having been through

 

my alcoholism it was just like life just

 

got too painful and it was just like all

 

of a sudden i realized i wasn’t living and

 

it it’s just like i don’t want to not

 

live anymore and so i did that with

 

alcohol and then i did this with food

 

and um it’s just sort of i don’t i don’t want

 

to hurt anymore the way that i’m hurting

 

and just realizing that life can be

 

easier than i’m i’m allowing it to be

 

i love that that’s beautiful

 

i wanted to mention because i know you

 

haven’t done a ton of the academy yet but

 

i did want to mention back to that last

 

point is that we have an a really fun

 

exercise in the academy that’s um

 

and you might want to look this one up

 

i’m trying to think i think it’s in week seven

 

in the self-care section so that’s in

 

the third video of the self-care section

 

there’s a really fun worksheet that

 

allows you to pull out some ideas for

 

what you might want to do for self-care

 

in this way and so i define self-care in

 

a little bit different way than most

 

people do it’s not manicures and

 

pedicures although it can be but

 

self-care is anything that sort of moves

 

you forward like we’re talking about

 

self-care as anything so so one of my

 

favorite examples that people never

 

think of for self-care is budgeting or

 

getting really good with your money

 

getting out of debt finally right these

 

kinds of things can create so much more

 

space in our world very similar to how

 

you’re talking about with eating to live

 

right um creating space in your life

 

that doesn’t have to do with food that

 

actually you know you can put that down

 

for a while but there is a fun worksheet

 

in there that is um

 

you take each 10 years of your life or

 

at least the first 20 years and you take

 

you could break them down in 10 year

 

increments and you go

 

what was something you love to do in

 

that time period so for instance um from

 

ages 0 to 10 was something you love to

 

do and one of them that’s really fun is

 

like i used to like to make mud pies

 

right i remember me and my cousin used

 

to make mud pies at her house all the

 

time she had a really cool backyard with

 

um woods and everything

 

you would make mud pies and mud cakes

 

and things like that

 

and so well what if you tried ceramics

 

right because ceramics is very similar

 

to making mud pies and that you know

 

that might be something you like kind of

 

an idea so it’s a kind of it’s a really

 

fun activity to sort of just pull out

 

some stuff you haven’t thought about in

 

a long time and maybe you can find

 

something new that will create just

 

spark some type of an idea there for you so

 

that might be

 

i think i need to do that and it’s funny

 

though you mentioned the budget because

 

i actually did start seeing a financial

 

coach as well in the past year

 

because

 

it’s just sort of like i’m ready to

 

clean house now all this stuff yeah

 

that’s it

 

avoided and um the stuff that was too

 

scary and too big and too feely because

 

i couldn’t handle it um i’m starting to

 

face all of that now and it’s free

 

yeah having that space to finally

 

start to just open up and think well

 

maybe i could start looking at my budget

 

again maybe i could start doing that and and

 

yeah the only way that we can create

 

that space is by putting down the ice

 

cream and by putting down the cookie

 

dough and having more moments to

 

ourselves to just think and be

 

who we are um

 

gosh this is it’s so beautiful what

 

you’ve found and i i want to go back to

 

the thing you’re talking about with the slingshot too

 

the idea that when we

 

we have all of us have different

 

journeys right so some of us do have

 

this sort of end of that spectrum where

 

we might be dealing with alcoholism as

 

well or even drugs or other things that

 

are quite addictive and

 

you know we know the definition of

 

addictive being something that

 

interferes with our natural progression of life right like

 

um and so that’s where it could be food

 

it could be shopping it could be

 

anything but it sort of interferes

 

that’s why i like to think of the

 

definition of binge eating as well as

 

being just it’s something past what a

 

normal meal would be right like you’re

 

just eating more than you need at a normal meal

 

not necessarily a full-on binge but just

 

thinking about this idea of what if we

 

could get our mindset wrapped around

 

just having what we need and moving on

 

right like for a meal having what we

 

need and then moving on

 

you like to think about the alcohol and

 

drug thing as well similarly

 

is there a way that we can learn to

 

become comfortable with our own thoughts

 

and feelings so that we don’t need the

 

substances anymore right could we

 

learn to accept our life the way it is

 

so that we don’t need those other things

 

can you talk a little bit about that

 

with your alcohol journey

 

was it a 12-step program that you credit

 

what do you credit for getting over the

 

alcohol in the first place

 

yeah so i actually did i did the

 

intensive outpatient therapy so um

 

rather than going inpatient i worked

 

full-time still and you went three

 

nights a week for three hours to a group

 

session where you learned about alcohol

 

and how it affected you and how to live

 

without it and so that you know that

 

support group of realizing i wasn’t

 

alone um even though in the support

 

group i had a different story i was a

 

really high functioning alcoholic and

 

not a lot of people had that i didn’t

 

have any legal issues or relationship

 

issues nobody knew that i was drinking i

 

was really good at hiding it

 

and so nobody really had any idea

 

so my story wasn’t the same as everybody

 

there but we all have the same feelings

 

and i think that kind of comes with food

 

too is the way that we handle food we

 

all have the same feelings even though

 

our story might look a little bit

 

different whether that be our weight

 

whether that be what we eat whether that

 

be what we accept as normal um and so

 

for me i did that and then i did go into

 

a 12-step program for a while

 

and then i ended up just it wasn’t

 

feeling right for me i didn’t find my

 

sense of community there so i actually

 

stopped going to a 12-step program

 

several years ago and i’ve been able to

 

maintain my sobriety through

 

um you know touching him with my higher

 

power as well as continuing with therapy

 

and um and just

 

a lot of self just work and

 

introspection and things like that and

 

so that’s really what worked for me but

 

it was it was that point where i would

 

come home from work and it was the same

 

thing with food i would come home from

 

work and i would put on my pajamas and

 

then i would immediately just start

 

drinking and in fact i was eating too i

 

would i would go out and i would yeah

 

fast food i would get an appetizer i

 

would get a meal and i would get a dessert

 

and i would drink

 

hesitant to say this but i’m gonna go

 

ahead and say it all right it’s okay two

 

bottles of wine you know and so i would

 

sit down and i would drink first of all

 

how do you drink that much fluid second of all

 

yeah it’s a lot of food and then i would

 

eat all of this food

 

and um it let me numb out and i didn’t

 

have to feel what i was feeling and it

 

was my way of of avoiding yep

 

and so for me it was figuring out how do

 

i sit with my feelings

 

this what i’ve been taught to run from

 

my whole life or what i’ve been

 

conditioned to run from my whole life

 

because that’s the only way i’m going to

 

make it through it is if i feel these feelings

 

yeah so i learned how to do that without

 

alcohol but

 

i started using food um yes instead and

 

using food to comfort myself and to to

 

find you know i would wake up in the

 

middle of the night and i wouldn’t have

 

anything bad to eat in my house

 

but i would get up and go to the grocery

 

store at two o’clock in the morning and

 

i would get a package of oreos and i

 

would eat an entire package of oreos and

 

that was kind of normal i mean it wasn’t

 

every night but it was it was normal and

 

enough that that it was it was a part of my existence

 

yeah for sure and so

 

and we see that a lot with folks who

 

have had um they’ve done studies on this

 

as well with folks who have had for

 

instance bariatric surgery that once

 

they get get the physical inability to

 

binge on that food anymore

 

they’re still left with the feelings

 

they’re still you know we still have our

 

feelings we all have feelings we all

 

have you know negative thoughts or um

 

and then we all have circumstances that

 

we view as negative as well so

 

covid or job loss or death in the family or

 

so and so said this to me and it hurt me

 

or whatever right we all have these

 

things and these things are never going

 

away they will always continue to be i

 

mean it’s 50 50 as we say in the academy

 

so they will always continue to be a

 

part of our life and

 

it’s learning how to sort of ride that

 

wave so to speak of whatever comes our

 

way so can you so this idea that okay

 

you were able to give up the alcohol and

 

you substituted alcohol with food now

 

can you tell us about august 2020

 

what happened and how did you get here

 

how did you get all the way here to

 

almost 120 pounds lost

 

yeah wow i don’t know if you could tell

 

me that’d be great because i haven’t quite figured it out

 

let’s let’s try to remember yeah um so

 

for me i read the book by emily bowler

 

and i just remember in that book she

 

tells her story her childhood was very

 

similar to mine in terms of eating you

 

know twinkies and all of that was just

 

sort of normal and how i ate and we

 

showed love through food

 

and in her book she talks about how her

 

child got very ill and she brought

 

coolers with her to the hospital and was

 

eating out of her car to do the eat to

 

live and i thought my goodness

 

this woman did this when one of the

 

toughest situations in there her life

 

was happening and i’m thinking i can’t

 

do this when i’m single and i don’t have

 

kids and i live by myself like i just

 

sort of thought

 

step it up it’s time to step it up and so

 

um i read dr fuhrman’s book and i read

 

the six week plan and i just decided

 

that i was just going to do it and so i

 

went through and i picked the recipes

 

that i liked out of his six week plan

 

and i i just started following those and when i

 

was feeling my feelings i i can’t think

 

of exactly what i did

 

but i think i think for me i just

 

reached the tipping point pretty quickly

 

where my energy got so much better that yeah

 

i didn’t have as much of a struggle as i

 

thought i would i mean considering you know i was

 

yeah i was gonna say actually some of it

 

probably had to do with just the the

 

feeling of well-being that starts to

 

come over you first of all when you lose

 

weight that’s fun

 

right we can’t we can’t gloss over the

 

fact of like how fun that is to actually

 

be losing weight and seeing results and

 

then as you mentioned just the feelings

 

in our body of

 

feeling so much more energy feeling like

 

we’re cleaning out and things like that

 

as well probably really contributed to

 

it and it you know it’s it’s a little

 

bit different than alcohol maybe because

 

with alcohol um it’s not like you lose a

 

ton like you lose a hundred pounds from

 

stopping alcohol right you but when you

 

sort of um start using the food instead

 

it really does you know you’re kind of

 

still masking those thoughts and

 

feelings but at this point um

 

when you give up the food part

 

you get so much benefit out of it right

 

and that yeah i bet that probably had a

 

lot to do with it yeah just the energy

 

and i think just my body getting the

 

nutrients it was supposed to get you

 

know if you yeah

 

you know for me that was that was the

 

big thing is just like my body hadn’t

 

had nutrition in so long and i

 

handled like the detox pretty well i was

 

really really worried about that i will

 

say i was very worried about how i was

 

going to feel and for me i went all in i

 

didn’t titrate up i didn’t like slowly

 

worry about like my gi tract i didn’t

 

really tell myself i wasn’t going to be

 

successful i didn’t do that messaging um

 

yeah so i wasn’t really into i mean i

 

was worried about side effects just from

 

reading about it but i i wasn’t like overly

 

anxious about it i would say i think day

 

maybe two or three pretty early on

 

i was eating something and i just all of

 

a sudden got very physically ill i could

 

not eat one more bite and i got physically

 

very disgustingly ill and i tried to eat

 

some soup after that i tried to eat

 

something a little bit easier and i just i couldn’t and

 

that day i was really ill and i was like

 

i don’t think i can do this and then the

 

next day i was fine and i never had any

 

other complications from it other than

 

that it was just this one day where i

 

physically got ill

 

wow that’s interesting dr fredman does

 

talk about when you first start this

 

lifestyle many people will experience

 

flu-like symptoms in the first week or

 

two it sounds like you got a little of

 

your share of that one as well yeah but

 

i didn’t you know it wasn’t enough for

 

me to give up on it because i think

 

at that point i think the big thing is

 

that we’re all looking for hope is

 

ultimately what we’re looking for um

 

whether that be in the bottom of the

 

bottle or whether that be in food or

 

whether that be in

 

you know lechonato kale i mean

 

we’re all looking for help and at that

 

point i was convinced that i was going

 

to find it through eating this way and

 

so that was enough to keep me going

 

through any of the negative stuff that i experienced

 

i love that when you went from the way

 

that you ate to eat to live what was

 

your kind of initial impression of it

 

did you love it did you kind of not like

 

it so much what you know the flavors and

 

things like that what was it like you know

 

i have always loved vegetables i’ve just

 

never really made them a part of my life

 

on a regular basis so i

 

really enjoyed the flavors i was

 

surprised at the richness of the flavors

 

particularly just like the salad

 

dressings and things um

 

how fulfilling they they were

 

and how my palette changed pretty

 

quickly i was really nervous the first

 

recipe that called for collards i was like oh

 

no i cannot do collars i was like yeah

 

but i did it and and it worked out and

 

you know like i said i didn’t titrate up

 

i know some people will start with more

 

spinach based i i went in and i was just

 

like kale all right i’m doing it all

 

nice and it was it worked and the flavor

 

profiles were really good for me i found

 

a recipe early on for

 

peanut butter chocolate and ice cream

 

that i think saved me yeah

 

i could see how that would save you

 

yes i guess i shouldn’t say that i did

 

perfectly the the fervent plan but for

 

several you know for the first couple

 

weeks i probably had that several times

 

a week and that kind of so in that

 

so that that makes me curious that kind

 

of a thing right because for me i wasn’t

 

in the i mean i definitely was a food

 

addict but i didn’t have the kind of

 

extreme where when i started i was like

 

i felt like i was at the end of my rope

 

you know i didn’t feel like that i i

 

made the choice because my father was

 

sick and i wanted to do that for my

 

health but i didn’t really have

 

a huge motivating reason or factor in my

 

personal life at the time other than my

 

father you know just seeing that but

 

that’s kind of like a secondhand thing

 

or you know just first-hand witnessing

 

but not really like inside of me so i’m

 

curious about

 

how you went from being an addictive

 

food personality type to having

 

something like that you know peanut

 

butter and ice cream peanut butter

 

chocolate ice cream was it that you kind

 

of decided to then not have as much of

 

how did that happen where you decided

 

did you say i’m having too much of this

 

i’m gonna cut back or how did that go

 

um you know i think for me it was just i

 

started seeing the scale go down and

 

that got me motivated to cut out

 

more of the calories and i think i also

 

liked eating the food a little bit more

 

too so i started enjoying the flavor

 

profile of the food even more and so

 

for for me i think that’s really what it

 

was it wasn’t like a conscious effort i

 

will say i’m battling a little bit of

 

that right now of i’m eating too much of

 

something i’ve been i’ve been having

 

some addictive food behavior with skinny

 

pop like ridiculous uh popcorn yep yeah

 

yeah yeah i love the brand i am like i

 

I’m not not hating the brand i’m hating my

 

behavior with it um

 

yeah for sure but for me i think i just

 

it was like i started to see the weight

 

go down and i thought i can do this

 

faster and i really don’t need this i

 

mean it’s adding some nutrition it’s not

 

giving me the same kind of joy that i

 

got when i ate regular ice cream

 

right and so it was sort of like why am

 

i eating this and what is it doing for

 

me and it just didn’t do as much for me

 

as as it used to

 

yeah yeah that’s good and i think i

 

think the answer to that to that

 

question is you’re

 

sort of like looking inwards really and

 

it’s kind of what we talk about in the

 

itil of family that’s what we talk about

 

in the academy this idea of it is just

 

the mindfulness of it it’s starting to

 

what we say or the sort of steps through

 

this are to become aware first of all so

 

we’re coming up where what we’re doing

 

and why we’re doing it maybe and then we

 

start to have like an internal dialogue

 

about it why am i doing this is this

 

useful for me what could i be doing

 

that’s better kind of a thing

 

and i like i love this idea that the

 

beginning of the journey is fueled by

 

the weight loss and the good feelings

 

and all that right and i look at my

 

journey it’s been over eight years now

 

that it’s been a lot of ups and downs

 

and for me i look at my journey as having um

 

on purpose ups and downs because of the

 

pregnancies so i knew there was going to

 

be at least a couple pregnancies that

 

would cause an upset

 

for me and i would have to relearn

 

everything you know and that’s sort of

 

the place that i’m in right now

 

over a year after having the second pregnancy

 

but it can it can be a very similar

 

thing like let’s say you’ve been doing

 

this for a year or two for anyone who’s

 

listening and suddenly something comes

 

up in your life right i remember when i first started

 

after a few months my father passed away

 

and so there was a real up and down

 

there on this high of you know nothing

 

could go wrong everything’s great of

 

course my dad’s sick but he’s still here

 

right i’m losing weight and all that and

 

then bam life hits again right and i

 

hear this from so many nutritarians and

 

so many just folks who want to eat

 

healthy that it’s that and then life hit

 

and then you know and then i fell off

 

track and i went back to my old ways and

 

all that and so that’s what i am most

 

interested in and i i want to mention

 

this because i love your journey and i

 

love the way that i feel like so much of

 

what you’re doing is based on

 

the work that you’ve already done with

 

the alcohol and like you already laid

 

this huge foundation of understanding

 

your feelings and your thoughts and the

 

work that you’re doing in therapy you’ve

 

already laid this really solid

 

foundation and so that’s what really helps you

 

but i and that’s why i’m saying this

 

because i don’t want to gloss over that

 

that’s the reason you’re successful is

 

because of your mindset and because of

 

what you do with your thoughts and your feelings

 

so what do you think about that yeah

 

absolutely i think that

 

i don’t i don’t want to say you can’t be

 

successful if you don’t look at your

 

thoughts but for me i couldn’t be

 

successful if i didn’t look at my

 

thoughts and the times when i let my

 

focus stray from that are the times that

 

i start to get into a little bit of

 

trouble even even now um uh

 

there was a while a couple weeks in a

 

row where i went out and got a pizza a

 

few times and

 

realizing you know one why did i do it

 

two forgiving yourself for it and three

 

figuring out what is my plan going

 

forward and i think one of the most

 

important things that i’ve learned through

 

you guys and particularly coach nancy

 

who um has just communicated this in a

 

way that really resonated with me was that

 

you can choose to make maybe

 

less than ideal choices if it’s if it’s

 

a choice versus more of that compulsion

 

and yeah

 

that she’s like what if i i think i

 

posted one time specifically about how i

 

just ate a pizza and how terrible i felt

 

about myself and she just said what if

 

instead of i know it was cookies and she

 

said what if you are just the kind of

 

person who chose to eat a cookie you

 

didn’t fail you didn’t do anything wrong

 

you just chose to have a cookie and i

 

was like wait

 

i can do that yes

 

i can choose to have a cookie and i can

 

be here is your permission

 

yeah here’s your permission yeah and it

 

was just like i don’t that was like a

 

big game changer for me so instead of

 

like shaking myself into i can never eat

 

the way my friends eat or i can never do

 

this or do that

 

that has been a really important thing

 

too you know like i’m dating right now

 

and so going out to eat is it happens

 

more often and it’s just i look at the

 

menu before i go and i determine what

 

i’m going to have and sometimes i do

 

have a flat bread pizza but i make that

 

choice in advance

 

yeah i’m okay with it

 

i know what i’m doing i pick something

 

that’s maybe not as you know a hamburger

 

and fries um but something that still is

 

not necessarily 100 in line with where

 

i’m hoping to be

 

but yeah i’m okay with it

 

but you’re choosing it yeah and that’s

 

that that’s such an important point

 

kirsten thanks for bringing it up

 

because that

 

first of all coach nancy is amazing

 

she’s so incredible she’s the she’s she

 

helps me in the eatily family she is the

 

private coach within the eat to live

 

family and um she’s just offering

 

helpful suggestions all the time she’s incredible

 

and it’s this and i sort of use this

 

hand gesture so if you’re just listening

 

to this on podcast you have to kind of

 

listen to my description here i use this

 

hand gesture all the time of you make a fist

 

and this is the action that you took

 

either over eating or whatever

 

and then you can just have that fist you

 

can just have that action that you took

 

or you can cover it with your other hand

 

which is what i’m doing right now and

 

you add shame and guilt and humiliation

 

and embarrassment and now look you’ve

 

got much bigger fist there you got a

 

much bigger issue

 

but if you take off that other fist the

 

second fist of humiliation and shame and

 

all the extra feelings and you say no no

 

i just chose that

 

and we take responsibility for the

 

things that we did instead of creating a

 

whole story around it about how it means

 

we’re terrible people we’ll never get

 

this and we are we’re just you know the worst and and

 

we’re a failure and we’re not worthy and

 

we don’t deserve the success and we

 

start creating this huge story about it

 

it’s not just a flatbread pizza anymore now it’s

 

we’re not even worthy of weight loss

 

right we’re not even we create a whole

 

thing about it

 

so we talk a lot about this in the

 

academy and in the family about

 

worthiness and what worthiness actually

 

is and how it’s actually has nothing to

 

do with what we do or don’t do

 

uh that we’re inherently worthy and that

 

worthy is just there from the get-go and

 

it doesn’t matter what we do or don’t do ever

 

that we will always remain worthy

 

and that um the actions that we take are

 

completely neutral

 

when we can just

 

accept the action for what it was and we

 

can take responsibility for what we chose

 

and not in a and not in a way that’s

 

good or bad because the action itself is

 

completely neutral what we did or didn’t

 

do is completely neutral it’s not good

 

or bad it is just a thing that happened

 

in the you know history books it’s just

 

a thing that happened it’s what we make of it

 

that creates our experience of it so

 

we had that flat bread pizza we can say

 

no i’m going to choose a flat bread

 

pizza and i’m totally fine with that

 

that’s what i want to do and

 

that’s it the end of it we eat the pizza

 

we move on or

 

we can be upset with ourselves or we’re

 

even considering the pizza as we’re

 

having it we can hate ourselves for

 

eating it then we can be super regretful

 

afterwards and turn it into this big

 

dramatic you know um issue

 

or we can just have it move on and that

 

experience is what continues to

 

shape the next meal and the next meal

 

after that and the next meal after that yeah

 

and i will just say to anybody out there

 

who’s listening i can tell you i have

 

done both of those and i think i did

 

those within a week

 

with relatively soon after starting

 

eating this way mo maybe a few months in

 

but i did it one way

 

and then i did it the other way and i

 

can just i can just give it just think

 

about it and try it because it’s amazing

 

when you just say you know what tonight

 

i want that favorite pizza and i’m gonna

 

have it i’m gonna eat a half of it and

 

you know what i’m not gonna beat myself

 

up and i did it and it was it was the

 

weirdest thing because i was like wait

 

i feel okay and i’m i’m not hating

 

myself oh my gosh food can not be this

 

evil thing that is gonna sentence me to

 

death like it’s just a thing and it was

 

the most foreign thing i’ve ever felt in

 

my entire life

 

and then and then i did it the other way

 

and i love that hand over the fist

 

because for me shame is what drives me

 

to eat for me personally yes yes that’s

 

right i ate bad so now i feel shame well

 

the only way i know how to shut that

 

shame up is by putting something at it

 

whether that be food or alcohol for me and so

 

and so if you take out that shame step

 

it it makes the program easier it makes

 

eating this way easier because

 

you’re not giving yourself that

 

predefined reason to continue to and i

 

hate to say misbehave because that’s not

 

true make decisions that are not

 

decisions that you really want to make

 

in good conscience but even that that is

 

a rewiring of my brain what i just did

 

there that is a rewiring that i’ve been

 

working on and it’s not easy it’s an

 

ongoing process for sure

 

yeah and the only way to do it as we

 

mentioned earlier the only way to do it

 

is to become aware first of all what’s

 

happening to become aware of the

 

thoughts that are occurring and aware of

 

the feelings that are occurring we have

 

some very specific tools in the family

 

that we use to open that up and just

 

start to start to see that because i

 

think what happens so much with us is

 

that when we have taught ourselves to

 

overeat for years and years and years

 

and we have taught ourselves to overeat

 

but maybe even binge as well we’ve

 

taught ourselves to add alcohol or to

 

add shopping overspending or any other

 

thing that we what we call buffer with

 

we’ve when we’ve taught ourselves to do

 

this for so many years it becomes such a

 

pattern and then it becomes subconscious

 

and it becomes completely impossible to

 

detect until we are halfway through that

 

bag of doritos or we are all the way

 

through the oreo package or the pizza is

 

on its way and we’re like dang it i did it again right

 

but it is the awareness before during

 

and after that creates all of the change

 

so we have lots of tools that we use about

 

um and we have one in specific that we

 

use with the scale actually um using a

 

scale to start to help us to work

 

through those thoughts and feelings as

 

well we use this in the tilla family in

 

the academy

 

so i’m just so glad to hear

 

your take on how you did this because

 

you you made a little comment a moment

 

ago that you think most

 

that most people like maybe there are

 

some people who could do it without

 

using thoughts and mindset and things like that but

 

i would be interested to meet those

 

people because i think the folks who can

 

i think the folks who can do this

 

naturally either have a really fast

 

metabolism and they don’t really have

 

any issues with food and food they just

 

don’t care about food they’re just

 

naturally are that kind of person that

 

food doesn’t matter to them but i think for folks like us

 

if we want to get to the place where

 

we feel calm and peaceful and empowered

 

about food again that takes some thought

 

work it takes some some introspection

 

and there is a difference between losing

 

weight and hating yourself

 

and hating yourself to lose weight and there’s a dif and

 

and so there’s there’s that possibility

 

or there’s what we’re doing which is

 

loving ourselves the whole time enough

 

to actually rework our brain and rewire things and

 

try to get to that place of because there’s

 

um you can hate yourself and use shame

 

and guilt and humiliation and all these

 

negative feelings to lose the weight and

 

we’ve all probably done this to some

 

extent i know i’ve done that so many times

 

and then once you get there you still

 

feel really shameful and worried and

 

like you’re this terrible person so

 

that’s when you gain it back because you

 

those feelings haven’t gone away and as you said

 

when we feel shamed or we feel shameful

 

or humiliated or angry with ourselves

 

that’s when we eat

 

right and so that is just a never-ending cycle yeah

 

yeah wow that’s beautiful i think you

 

know having to prepare for that too like i

 

um my family is coming to visit for the

 

first time they were here just before i

 

started this eating plan a year ago i

 

live away from my family and my family

 

doesn’t follow this lifestyle at all

 

and um they’re coming to visit for the first time and

 

yeah you’re gonna be here in about a

 

month and i’m already thinking about

 

what are the thoughts i have around with

 

this you know just your own family

 

dynamics sometimes can change the way

 

you behave and whatever and so i’m

 

already having to kind of think about my

 

thoughts and how am i gonna navigate

 

them when they’re here and i think

 

that’s something that’s changed is that

 

i’m more anticipatory of that rather

 

than just being reactive and waiting

 

sorry for my other dog here um

 

that’s okay waiting for it

 

to happen you know i’m i’m anticipating that

 

this might be a little bit of an out of

 

my routine for me so how am i gonna best prepare for that

 

yep yep and that is that before during

 

and after thinking that is so so

 

important to all those situations so

 

let’s talk a little bit about practical stuff

 

so when you when you go out to eat what

 

are your strategies do you go out to eat

 

of course you said you’re dating now so

 

what are your strategies for when you go

 

out to eat now you said you look at the

 

menu beforehand yes i absolutely look at

 

the menu beforehand um i

 

fort wayne is i’m in fort wayne indiana

 

and we have a pretty big vegan community

 

here and so a lot of restaurants have

 

pretty good menus that you can choose

 

from but i had somebody i’m not going to

 

be judgmental but i’m a little

 

judgmental who chose applebee’s for our

 

first date oh gosh

 

that tells you something maybe no i

 

should have not gone at that point it

 

went downhill quickly after that but um

 

there’s not a lot to choose from at an

 

applebee’s restaurant and yeah i know i

 

actually didn’t even look at advance

 

because i knew that i wasn’t good anyway

 

so i got there early but you know i just

 

i chose i chose um a salad and i look at

 

what’s on there what can i get on the

 

side what can i pull off of it and so i

 

try to think through that a little bit

 

um some days i make that decision where

 

you know i’m gonna have chicken today i

 

i just i i am gonna choose to have

 

chicken on my salad yes and i do that

 

but a lot of times i’ll

 

i don’t i stopped worrying so much about

 

being that obnoxious person that people

 

are judging for asking to have things

 

taken off or to have actually added i

 

mean i’m not totally obnoxious about it

 

but i’ll say i don’t want the candied

 

pecans or i’ll say i want my dressing on

 

the side i don’t want feta cheese like

 

who doesn’t want feta cheese but i’ll say that

 

which pains me great you mean like

 

nutritionally i don’t want feta cheese right now okay

 

emotionally give me emotionally

 

but in reality i’m gonna have you skip

 

it um and and i’m usually really

 

self-conscious about inconveniencing people

 

and about people judging me and it i’ve

 

had to set that aside when i eat out

 

because i oh hello kitty cat

 

keep going sorry

 

that’s okay so you know that’s i’ve had

 

to be okay with asking to be a little

 

bit high what i consider to be a little

 

bit high maintenance at a restaurant and

 

i just have to let that go um that’s a

 

big part of it looking at the menu in

 

advance and if i can choose a restaurant

 

trying to have some say over where we go um you know

 

yeah something sparked for me there when

 

you said that this idea of the the high

 

maintenance thing

 

um something sparked for me there

 

because i never really thought about it

 

this way before but like

 

restaurants are created by standard

 

american dieters typically right so

 

restaurant is created by someone who is not

 

understanding eat to live at all or not

 

even caring to their

 

they create restaurants that people will

 

buy more food so clearly there’s going

 

to be oil and salt and things like that right

 

but it makes us be high maintenance

 

because we have to work around all of

 

those obstacles right

 

but actually what they’re doing they’re

 

making it like they are making us be

 

high maintenance right like because

 

all we want to do is just eat something

 

that’s going to like support our life

 

and all they want to do is sell more oil and sugar

 

and salt right and so um

 

the advent of the restaurant in this way

 

like these types of restaurants that we

 

have these industrialized you know huge

 

kind of restaurants that we have have

 

completely shifted what normal eating is

 

and we know this to some extent but this idea that

 

we’re the ones that have to become high

 

maintenance but they actually made us

 

high maintenance i just want to like

 

make that point right like it’s not that

 

you’re a high maintenance person and i

 

think like when we go to restaurants

 

with folks like this we like oh i don’t

 

want to appear high maintenance but like

 

it’s not our fault right just like make

 

it so we can have a salad that doesn’t

 

have a bunch of crap on it you know but

 

okay i’ve got to leave that one right there

 

i think that that’s what that gets to a

 

really important point too is that you

 

have to retrain yourself to not say i’m

 

high maintenance so one of the things

 

i’m working on right now is i call

 

myself procrasti kirsten because i am a

 

queen of procrastinating and someone

 

just told me recently they’re like every

 

time you say procrasti kirsten you are

 

perpetuating that idea of yourself and so

 

i need to learn to not say i’m being

 

high maintenance but

 

you know we have to retrain ourselves i

 

i am ordering food that is good for my body and

 

that is yes it’s taken me a very long

 

time to get to the point where i can do

 

that and so even as i i said that i

 

realized i need to not refer to that that way

 

and and that’s interesting because

 

that’s why i wanted to sort of talk a

 

little bit about the slingshot thing in

 

the beginning because you have created an identity

 

for yourself of being someone who

 

slingshots now that’s a positive

 

identity so we’ll keep that one right

 

but when you create identities were

 

creating this large story around i’m a

 

procrastinator or i am a high

 

maintenance person or whatever and when

 

we have a story our brain is just

 

looking for more confirmation of that

 

story that’s what it does so we’re

 

looking for more combination

 

confirmation that we’re a procrastinator

 

or that we this or that or whatever and

 

um if it’s a negative story we’re just

 

looking for more confirmation that the

 

negativity exists right but even

 

talking about it even characterizing it

 

with a word like procrastination right

 

and so with your high maintenance thing

 

is you flip that to you flip that thought to

 

i’m not high maintenance i’m just

 

someone who cares about my health right

 

i’m just someone who cares about that

 

kind of a thing or i’m not a

 

procrastinator i’m just somebody who

 

doesn’t like the pain of doing work but

 

like everybody doesn’t like the pain of

 

doing work so there’s actually nothing

 

negative there right so it really is

 

just on how we think of it yeah

 

and i think that the same thing can be

 

said for you know i i’m a failure at this

 

yes you’re not a failure at this you’re

 

trying to undo years of

 

of training your your body to eat the

 

way you’ve been eating and so that’s one

 

of the things that i would encourage

 

people who are early on in their journey to try to

 

you know i’m i’m feeling because i’m

 

having a craving or whatever you’re not

 

you’re doing what your body has done for

 

the past 15 20 30 40 years that’s right

 

you are working your butt off to go

 

against it like you’re not failing

 

you’re succeeding but it’s sometimes

 

you have to face those old patterns

 

yeah i love the word practice in this

 

case it’s not failing it’s practice

 

right and doctors

 

don’t call themselves it’s not a medical

 

failing it’s a medical practice right so

 

they don’t get it right all the time either

 

so tell me just a little bit about your

 

experience with my program so you said

 

you’ve done um you’ve done the

 

challenges is that right what have you

 

done and then you’re also part of the

 

family so tell me a little bit about

 

your experience with my stuff so i have

 

been through all of the each live

 

academy um wow nice not the best student

 

during all of that’s okay it’s okay so i

 

i have done it all and it’s it’s all

 

amazing and i’m actually getting ready

 

to start listening to it again now that

 

i’m a part of the family but yeah i have

 

i have done a lot of the challenges when

 

you put them on sale that one year i

 

bought like 20 of them because i think

 

about seven or eight of them because

 

that’s actually it’s been

 

it’s the core of my success honestly um

 

i’m still pretty much following recipes

 

even a year later uh i’m making my own

 

challenges now but i’m still not using a

 

lot of my i don’t trust myself to make

 

my own recipes so i’m just not i’m just

 

using what’s there and it’s working for

 

me if i leave myself to my own devices

 

i i wouldn’t do it but that’s not the

 

question you asked you asked me

 

what of your program have i used so yes

 

i’ve done the challenges i have watched

 

a lot of the the what i eat in a day

 

videos i have watched there’s the live

 

coaching sessions that are available if

 

you’re a member of the family i’m

 

watching those i have done the eat to

 

live academy once through where i more

 

listened to it and now i’m getting ready

 

to launch in and do it a little more

 

where i’m actually doing the work doing

 

more of the different activities you

 

talk about the thought downloads the

 

models there’s always amazing things

 

that everyone out there should sign up

 

to have because they can just um and so

 

just the the community connection

 

through the family as well just seeing

 

what other people are doing has been

 

really really helpful for me for me

 

though i think the most beneficial thing

 

has been the challenges or the recipes

 

that you offer that really has

 

it’s it’s changed my life i mean jerry

 

you’ve been a big part of that the

 

reason i’m successful is because of

 

those recipes and i get emotional i

 

couldn’t have done it without those and

 

without you and that’s pretty awesome

 

oh you’re gonna make me emotional stuff i know

 

you know it’s so amazing because at this

 

point there’s

 

you know have a good deal of people in

 

the audience i have a really good deal

 

of people in the family who are you know

 

working these programs and these tools

 

every month and just creating so much

 

change and to meet somebody like you who

 

there’s a lot of people in my audience i

 

think who are just kind of in the

 

background and they’re maybe doing the

 

programs without telling me that they’re

 

doing the programs and you know in the

 

beginning like i knew everyone’s name i

 

knew everyone who was doing everything

 

and they would tell me everything

 

and now it’s gotten to this really fun

 

place where i’m creating you know these

 

programs and these programs are creating

 

the change right and so

 

i love to see this that it’s kind of

 

continuing to work and your idea of

 

going back to the academy we’ve had

 

people do the academy three four five times in a row

 

and even i go back and listen to my own

 

videos and i’m like hey that was really

 

smart i can’t i don’t remember saying that

 

and i learned stuff from myself again um

 

but yeah so i’m glad to hear that you

 

love the challenges and i just want to

 

give a shout out again to coach nancy

 

because she’s the recipe developer right

 

now of course so you know i did the

 

first couple challenges and i just i

 

couldn’t keep up with the workload and

 

she has just jumped in and created such

 

amazing recipes now for these challenges

 

they are they’re phenomenal so

 

if you guys can ever look for one of the um

 

flash sales that we do or we try to put

 

these on sale like kirsten was talking

 

about pick some of those up and use

 

those because and that is specifically

 

why i created challenges because i wanted to have

 

people understand how i lost the weight

 

too and it’s just these little periods

 

of precision you know getting through

 

and just doing what you got to do and

 

and um and learning a lot about the

 

lifestyle so you said something about

 

liking the recipes what are your

 

two favorite recipes that you use

 

nowadays in on your eat to live journey

 

um well i’m a big smoothie person and so

 

any combination of smoothies so i don’t

 

have a specific smoothie i just kind of

 

throw in whatever greens i have whatever

 

vegetables i or fruit i have and

 

sometimes i’ll just like so you were so

 

you were lying when you said you don’t

 

create your own recipes

 

so that’s a story but i just want to

 

point out you are able to create your

 

very own

 

smoothies at this point okay sorry to

 

interrupt go ahead keep going

 

thank you for reminding me of that yes

 

smoothies i can be a little more

 

flexible with i’m not yet there with

 

salads that’s that’s tougher for me to

 

get a good flavor profile i guess i

 

don’t have the confidence in my ability

 

although i was just thinking the other

 

day i’m like i’m gonna start i’m gonna

 

start trying my own i’m i think i’m

 

getting to the point where i’m ready to

 

start trying my own um but my favorite

 

is the big quinoa salad oh my gosh it’s

 

so good it’s got quinoa i don’t know if

 

you want me to go into the rest of the

 

ingredients yes tell us and we’re also

 

i’m also going to put these recipes down

 

below so if you can give us one of your

 

favorite smoothie recipes and then we’re

 

going to put this other quinoa one down

 

below this video so um so if you’re

 

watching the podcast it’ll be in the

 

show notes or if you are watching the

 

youtube videos underneath the youtube

 

video so go ahead so i think that right

 

now i just had it today so i’m gonna say

 

this one the anti-inflammatory smoothie

 

um i was not a big ginger fan but now i

 

can actually put in the full amount of ginger my flavor

 

this is actually interesting because

 

both of these are flavors that i didn’t

 

originally like um but the

 

anti-inflammatory smoothie is huge and

 

it’s really really good and i like that

 

it’s got pineapple in it and some ginger and greens and um

 

a banana and it’s it’s awesome

 

the big quinoa salad has quinoa beets

 

which i always thought tasted like dirt

 

and now i absolutely love crazy some

 

madness going on here

 

it’s also got blueberries and raspberries

 

and green onions and a bunch of greens

 

of course and a cashew based dressing and it is

 

honestly the best salad i think i’ve

 

ever eaten in my life i love it i could

 

i could eat it every day and my parents

 

are coming and they they like i said

 

they don’t eat this and that’s the salad

 

i’m gonna make them because i don’t know

 

how you could not like that salad it’s

 

so delicious nice

 

good deal i’m so glad to hear that we

 

have come up some with some awesome

 

winners for you and there are so many

 

other recipes out there we even do

 

free five-day challenges from time to

 

time as well and there’s a free nine-day

 

challenge on my website so feel free to

 

pick that one up if you guys want to as

 

well that’s right on the home page so if

 

you’re interested in what these

 

challenges are like and you’re you’re

 

interested in um

 

knowing as kirsten said it can be a

 

little bit intimidating to get started

 

but if you just know some tried and to

 

true recipes that can really get you

 

going so thank you for sharing those with us

 

um i think that that is almost

 

everything i just want to ask you one last question

 

what is your advice for people wanting

 

to get started with this lifestyle start

 

i i mean

 

honestly start i think i think

 

for me my advice would be

 

pick something that is doable for you

 

and start there um i was the kind of

 

person where i had to go from zero to

 

sixty that worked best for me but i

 

don’t know that that’s gonna work for

 

everybody so i think if you if you read

 

the eat to live book and read about how

 

starved nutritionally our bodies are

 

picking one meal that is

 

easy for you to to change is a really

 

good place to start so for me smoothies

 

make the most sense um yeah just because

 

they’re a little bit lower maintenance

 

than having to prep a lot of salad and

 

so if you’re hesitant about that to me

 

smoothies are a little bit easier you

 

just throw all the stuff in a blender

 

it’s a powerhouse of of of nutrients and

 

it fills you up and so for me it would be just pick

 

one change to start with and you call

 

this the small shifts in the program i think

 

i’m saying that correctly that’s right

 

that one shift that you want to make and um

 

starting there that’s that’s the big

 

thing but i think also just realizing that

 

believe you’re worth it

 

believe you’re worth it believe you’re

 

worth taking time and energy and

 

spending a little extra money perhaps on

 

produce and believe that you are worth

 

the time and effort it takes

 

to feel better and i’m gonna get

 

emotional because i didn’t think that i

 

was worth it and um you know

 

you are you are worthy of feeling better

 

than you’re feeling today and just find nutrient

 

you know putting more nutrients in your

 

body you will feel better and you

 

deserve that everyone out there deserves

 

that and i wish just 10 of what i had

 

for everyone out there because it’s powerful

 

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oh that makes me so happy to see that

 

thank you for sharing your emotion with

 

us that is that is such a blessing to see that um

 

from the perspective of someone who is

 

really good at this who’s been doing

 

this for a while and

 

showing your results with others that it’s possible

 

to go from where you went to where you

 

are now in such a short period of time

 

it’s just a very hopeful message so

 

thank you for sharing with us kirsten

 

thank you for having me of course so

 

yes thank you so much for doing this

 

interview i really really appreciate it

 

and thank you so much kirsten we will be

 

hearing from you more in the future hope

 

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